What’s Up With Propellerheads Record?
You may or may not know yet, but Propellerheads, the makers of Reason, have finally stepped into the new era and allowed audio recording
inside of Reason.
However, it’s a through a separate program make specifically for audio recording.
It’s supposed to be straight forward and made for us non engineer types
you know, the guys and gals that like to press record, and record!
Not having to worry about weird routing and arming and all that crap does excite me.
I haven’t had a chance to check it out yet, but I’ve heard the mixing is based on an SSL console.
My engineer buddies say it sounds good.
When I get my paws on it, I’ll be sure to let you know.
What do you think about them putting out a DAW?
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I’ve started beta testing already, if your a Reason user, you’ll love this software. Recording in it is beyond easy, and its sound is bananas. I only have a few beefs with it: #1 still no VST or oother plugin support (c’mon Propellorheads get with the program!!!!). And they have a Dongle (if your not familiar its a usb plugin that varifies that the user of the software is the owner).
While this plus a internet verification system is a great way to keep users of the software legit, its also a great headache. I love Protools, but the fact that you can’t use it with out its hardware has always been a problem for me! I envision losing the dongle or my internet card then I wont have a way to open the program…..until I purchase or find the either one of those.
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saintjoe Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
thanks for the comment d, yeah man no vst is kinda old school but you gotta hand it to them, I usually don’t hear about reason users saying their stuff is crashing lol and with various companies supporting reason format, vsts aren’t all that neeeded, they would be nice, but not needed.
however, I don’t use reason lol, BUT Record looks nice, I haven’t started beta testing yet, I just got the email early this week, but haven’t downloaded it yet
i HATE dongles man! comon! lol.
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I cant wait to check out this one myself. Im not a big fan of reason but the interface for this looks so similar to the SSL. I wonder if digidesign is still going to befriends with them now that they will have a competing DAW
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saintjoe Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Yeah man, I’m really interested. I know you’d know more about it than me, as far as the ssl goes, but if it’s simple to drop my beats in, then record, or record my mpc into or whatever, then I may have to check it out.
thanks for stopping by the site man! I see you ready to go now too!
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Record is the bomb!! It is super simple and really you focus on only one thing (once you got your bearings in the program) REcord RECORD RECORD. FAST, SIMPLE, STABLE (yes very very very stable, still in beta and no crashes after hours of recording. I had to force myself to stop
Now the not so good points. You have to have a line 6 hardware to be able to have more amps and gear. What about portability? how about using the pod farm through the ilok system.(just an idea)
I love their verification system with internet verification, can’t wait for the ignition key though, just in case I don’t have internet connection.
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saintjoe Reply:
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 am
welcome to the site bro!
I just opened it for the first time today but haven’t really messed with it. It looks pretty simple though.
So what type of devices do you get if you have line6 hardware? like ore fx and such? Are they hardware accelerated fx? Or is it used like a “dongle” for some
that are locked inside the software already?
I like to hear that it’s stable man!
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majestic0424 Reply:
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
If you have any line 6 devices and you have purchased amps and stomps from their software, then these amps and stomps are now recognized by Record.
Down side of this, the hardware is bigger than a dongle. Instead the pod farm could be part of Record and then we’re talking…
Pod farm is not bad at all for basses, guitars, voices etc…
the fact that you can not transfer you authorizations from line6 to the propellerhead Dongle is a little bit of a downer. That would be awesome to really have everything in one place.
Other than that. Yes RECORD is stable and keeps you focus in Doing… MUSIC. all day and all night.
Cheers.
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saintjoe Reply:
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Oh okay, I hear that, yeah…that kinda sucks but…it’s all good. I think the stuff included with record is dope, and I’m sure they will release more effect presets and modules, if not, it’s still a great app.
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Dude,
If Reason can make the mixing console sound even remotely like an SSL console, I will never leave my house again. Reason is already the s#%t, but as a DAW with SSL comparability, this will raise production to a whole new level.
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saintjoe Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Yo, all I’m saying is…I have a friend that is an engineer, has been for a while, and he says it sounds VERY dope. It’s really all I would need for recording myself and a few buddies….
But he said the sound quality is amazing.
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shayne Reply:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
There was a , uh protools plugin, Waves SSL 4000 E-Channel I think, a while back that purported to emulate an SSL strip. A buddy who runs a down town studio had it on his HD system, and we did have a mess around with it. Peaches and cream it sounded like. I gotta say it didn’t quite have that warmth I seem to remember the SSLs having (and the heavenly compression) but I suspect the only real way to get an SSL strip is , well, to have an SSL. It did however sound real nice and the guy used it all the time.
If theres a studio in heaven, you just know theres going to be one of those big old desks, perhaps nestled in with some custom BBC pre-amps or something.
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saintjoe Reply:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:32 am
Yeah there are a few out there. I feel ya, only way to truly get “it” is to have “it” but my engineer dudes say this joint sounds really good. We’ll see, now that it’s out and people are starting to use it
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shayne Reply:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Just downloaded the demo, cracked out the trusty Rode NT1 and bass guitar and had a jam around with this.
I gotta say man, this stuff sounds great. I did a raw side by side against ableton, and whilst the Alesis io/26 sounds a little harsh and raw on Ableton before its warmed up with something like saturation, on Record its really damn smooth. I still think its not QUITE the SSL sound I remember, but I really think this provides a good alternative to expensive outboard pre-amps , and that master compressor is phat as hell.
I tried playing around with the bass amp simulation, and it was a little flabby, but that really might be the alesis box which has never really sounded great with just the bass plugged straight in. Bass guitars tend to have a wild gain structure and really do need tameing before hitting DAC converters. I might have another try later with a DI box in the chain and maybe with micing my amp up.
But I’m impressed as hell, and might lay down some bucks next pay check.
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saintjoe Reply:
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Cool man, thanks for reporting back for us! That’s dope to hear man and I’m constantly hearing good things about it man! Keep us posted as you keep using it.
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Hey, hook a fellow musician up with a beta license to Record please! Nice site also. thousend thanks! Greets from Sweden
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soundsandgear Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
cool man! If I get some more licenses you are on the list! thanks for stopping by, I hope to see
you around more! Tell your friends!
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Hello,
Propellerhead's Record is not just a Daw or a Recording System for musicians. It is both, and a lot more. Combinators can stack within combinators. There is no need for plug-in's because the system interface is too complex. The primary function is to Record & import wave files simply on the fly, quickly, efficiently, and with optimal quality. This is Record in a nutschell. Yet, going beyond the basics for those musicians who have the understanding to interface record and reason as both individual standalone work stations and as a combined interface of sound logic processing unparalleled within today's music industry, is just the tip of the ice-berg. Record is the new find of quality sound recording for both the inexperienced and advanced rocker individual musicians or bands. Yes, Pro Tools, Sonar,
and other Daws have great sound. Yet, they all have to have plug-ins to produce these high quality sound recordings. Thus, Record is the pioneer of the new non-plug-in based interfaced software that provides powerful Reason interface for not only unlimited recording tracks, but unlimited productive sound creativity. The musican / producer / sound designers' dream come true. 'Propellerhead Record'; as simple as turn on, plug in, hit record and rock; to the complex interfacing of quality mixing and mastering sound development, and intricate sound design for the recording, motion picture, commerical advertising, television, and video game industries. Yes, i am a beta tester, and loving every minute of it!
Duce Out!
2SO4 Publishing
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saintjoe Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I agree man! I love the whole concept of making it easier to just make music! Record with a great audio quality, no long hours of reading manuals and stuff man! This is what recording should be like.
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The interesting thing about Record is they are really only competing with Reason users. Logic and Pro Tools will probably always be better on the more technical side, and I don't think thats what the guys at Propellerhead are going for. From he pictures I've seen, it actually looks to be competing with Reaper, interface wise. However, what Im interested in is the $500 Reason/Record combo. I don't use Reason but I'd really like to start, and $500 isn't bad considering Reason is $400 alone.
Vert
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soundsandgear Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I agree bro, I don't think it's a protools/logic replacement.
Actually not reaper either, which can get pretty deep.
but I think it's for folks that just want to record, not be engineers.
My buddy is an engineer, he said records sounds awesome…he got them ears too man lol.
I like it for it's simplicity, I can drop my tracks in, drop vocals, and be done. Without too much effort.
I also considered the combo just because lol…reason is just like a whole new synth factory man! I'd just use it rewired into ableton live as another
sound source.
glad to see ya over here bro!
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Hello,
I ask you to think about this carefully. Today a used SSL 9000 recording console mixer (hardware console) is pricing on e-bay from $90,000 – $150,000. This same SSL 9000 mixer is now the main brains behind the recording virtue and sound of propellerhead Record. I do not know what mixing console pro-tools and the others are using. Yet, you can assume that in the larger studio's some version of the SSL 9000 hardware console is being used as a pro-tools production tool. You can also safely assume that propellerhead noticed this concept and expounded upon it as a way to market the first professional non-plug-in recording software. Even though Record is for anyone; non-engineer or novice. The typical musician or the advanced pro. Yet, the engineering that went into the algorithm interfacing of propellerhead Record alone is a site to behold. Record is not only an extension of Reason 4; it is an extension of some of the most expensive Mastering hardware being used today in the major recording studios. Pro-Tools LE with all components and sound cost from $3,800-$4,200 to get started. The Pro-Tools professional studio will start at from $10,000 -(+-$100,000). Now, how do you get this same professional sound for your own studio? There is only one answer to this question regarding quality sound, quality mixing, quality mastering and quality production at an un-heard of price. Thus, the Record / Reason interface in fact will challenge the Pro-Tools standard. Musicians will indeed have at least a second choice for their projects. "Propellerhead Record" 'Yeah'!
Duce Out!
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saintjoe Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I agree man! I’m very excited about this software. I don’t mind the no plugin architecture, I like it. If I can get a good sound just using the included fx and mixing I’m good. There is no doubt in my mind we will see third-party fx suites for the build in devices, much like we see third-party libraries for reason. I think they have something special on their hands…and I think it’s all I’d ever need.
I’m not saying it can’t compete with protools, what I’m saying is…because of the “status quo” I don’t know if many studios will switch over to this instead of protools, but I definitely see it bridging the gap even more between home and studio quality recordings.
I have no desire for protools, at all. I’m glad something like this is available.
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I just got the Record demo and have been toying around with it. If your familiar with Reason the workflow should be very natural. What I really want to know though is what an engineer has to say comparing Record with the Waves Plugins which are also designed to emulate Solid State Logic (and are very expensive, although far less then a real SSL board) As I said earlier it's really just competition for Reason. From what I have been reading it will even open your Reason projects without having to actually load Reason making it essentially Reason sans instruments. (at least that is what I read) Record will NEVER be able to compete with Pro Tools though; just on name alone. Pro Tools is the production equivalent of Bose. Not to mention the lack of VST support. For the price, it's hard to complain, but that's just the Propellerhead motto of Reason> any other plugins. Personally I just don't know about doing away with VSTs, which is probably why I havn't purchased Reason yet. Also, according to another website this is not considered a DAW, at least by the Prop. team. Which is albeit gimmicky, just another way of trying to queeze into a niche market. Now if only it came with ReCycle.
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saintjoe Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Well, you can always rewire into another host if you want. However, from what I hear, the sound quality is already top notch…and I would imagine you’d start seeing third party libraries based on the included fx devices, just like people make libraries for the reason devices….
I think it can change a lot of things in the recording industry.
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That's true, but albeit unresourceful to have to ReWire to another host just to use your VSTs. Then that's another program you have to buy. I'm trying to consolidate my studio into something as small and CPU friendly as I can.
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chiduce Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Hello Guys,
My brother owns Pro Tools and is currently using the Waves Plug-Ins in his Pro-Tools unit. We are both up and coming music producers, artists, musicians, etc. I would like to quote him regarding Propellerhead's Record. "If i had a choice between Record and Digi-Design Pro-Tools? I would choose Record'! It then hit me what he meant. Yes, pro-tools is the industry standard. Yet, for all this time no Daw could compare with the pro-tools sound in creating a major sound production efficiently, effectively, and with such high quality. Well, Record has changed that and if you look on the Reason website at the major recording artists, producers etc, using reason today. You will see that Record is in fact a pro-tools alternative. Just as Reason is. Now the pieces of the propellerhead puzzle are all together and the sky is indeed the limit or may i say "no recording track limit".
Duce Out! http://www.myaspace.com/2so4
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saintjoe Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Thanks for the input man, it helps. I have no plans to purchase protools at all…I don’t want or need it. Record looks exactly like what I want in a recording situation. I don’t need a bunch of options, and all my engineer buddies say the sound quality is superb. Thanks for stopping by man.
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saintjoe Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I personally don’t care about the lack of vsts. From what I hear the quality of the engine and fx are very high
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hey thanks for the hook up i dont think i will try it out i know u work for open lab so do u have the lx ? im geting one but i wont to midi my other gear with it throught usb with 4×4 box is that possable.and do they send a list all vst inside the box
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saintjoe Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Cool man, and nah, I don’t work for openlabs…I WISH lol. If you go to the website you can see exactly what vsts come inside of each of their machines. You can hook up a hub just like you can to a computer, but depending on your devices you may need a powered usb hub to run them. Some midi gear doesn’t work well on non powered hubs. If the gear has it’s own power supply, you’ll be fine.
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Record running on my Miko LXD is bananas! No limit to the instruments, no latency. The SSL board sounds like ear candy. Its fat and warm sounding.
I find it so easy to compose a complete song (I pre-owned Reason). I personally don’t care the reason (no pun intended) Propellerheads refuses to join the VST revolution, I believe doing so would put them in the lead as far as being one of the best daw’s.
Its ironic I use to say that Reason would be runner up 4 best if it were able to incorporate recording and Vst use.
Well P’heads got the record part right!
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saintjoe Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 4:31 am
dope bro! glad to hear you’re having fun with it. I’ve played with it a little bit, I REALLY like how easy it is to record with it and drag fx onto tracks and such. You using the instruments in there to compose the song or are you bringing in your own beats first then recording?
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what up joe thanks for some more sample but im looking for VST im looking to get the LXD and i would like to have them for that gear
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saintjoe Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 4:30 am
thanks for the response bro, did you go ahead and download the free kontakt player and free kore player from native instruments?
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thanks for the riffs nice i havent mess with the player yet i will look it over tonight im kind of new to the daw world im more of a hardware kind of guy im have to be if i get the LXD mabey u can help me out im try to understand computers are confusing to me i had a long 15 year streach and i miss most of the computer networking and systems so now im trying to learn by my self(hard)like now im just starting to use read on how to use digital and optical outs and ins (i know nothing about)i have no clue if u have the time or have a link (PLEASE HELP)thanks my bro synth
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saintjoe Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
no problem man! Yeah I hear ya…i’m just moving to software music stuff myself so I’m still learning as I go. Digital outs you can use just like normal…you just need the right cables. I don’t have/use them so I’m no expert on that
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Trying it out in South Africa…Just downloaded record….Need a beta license…will check it out before expiry date…I hope…
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saintjoe Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
yeah man…they haven’t sent me anymore, i had way more peeps on this list than what they ended up sending over.
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whats up joe change email im still wating for the codes for simplfide sounds
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saintjoe Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
sup bro! Since they released the official version for sale this week, I doubt they will send out any more beta codes, since they are ending the beta next week.
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i willo be on tonight about midnight in colo time
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saintjoe Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
coo
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OK I BEEN HELLA BUSY IN THE STUDIO CRAFTING HITS…..SO I HAVEN’T HAD TIME TO BE ON HERE AS MUCH AS I’D LIKE. BUT TODAY MY DONGLE BROKE, SO I FIGURED I’D GET ON HERE AND SEMI-VENT……LOL. 1ST OFF RECORD IS A PHENOM….I MEAN ITS SUPER EASY, REASON USERS WILL LOVE IT, NOT “LIKE”….”LOVE” IT.
THE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH IT ARE CRAZY, YOUD SPEND 100S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GET A PHYSICAL STUDIO WITH ITS CAPABILITIES. BUT……(NOW THAT I BRAGGED ON IT, LETS PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE) PROPELLERHEADS FOR SOME REASON (NO PUN INTENDED) DID 2 THINGS WITH THIS SOFTWARE THAT MAKE IT LESS THAN PERFECT, HAD THEY FIXED THESE 2 ISSUES IT WOULD EASILY BE THE BEST RECORDING PROGRAM ON THE MARKET……PERIOD!!!!!
FOR 1 THE DONGLE……ITS EVIL, WHY PUT A DONGLE WITH A PROGRAM, I WONT EVEN GO INTO WHY……LETS JUST SAY IF YOU DON’T KNOW BY NOW, YOU’LL NEVER KNOW (OR MAYBE DONGLES ARE YOUR THING…..TO EACH HIS OWN).
SECONDLY WHY NO VSTS…….YEAH, YEAH WE’VE ALL HEARD THEIR “WE WANT WANT IT TO BE A SELF CONTAINED PROGRAM” EXPLANATION. BUT C’MON COMPANIES THAT LEARN TO PLAY WELL WITH OTHERS LAST LONGER AND GET MORE SALES/ MONEY.
LOOK AT MAC AND PC, MAC NOW RUNS WINDOWS. OR OPENLABS MIKO, NEKO, D-BEAT….THEY RUN EVERY PC PROGRAM AND PLAY WELL WITH OTHER HARDWARE. IMAGINE IF OPENLABS MADE ALL THOSE PRODUCTS AND NON OF EM WORKED WITH PC PROGRAMS OR OTHER HARDWARE……THEY’D JUST BE REGULAR JUICED UP KEYBOARDS OR A DRUM MACHINE.
PROP HEADS PLEASE GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!!!!!
NOW I GOTTA GET ANOTHER FREAKIN DONGLE…..TRUELY SUX
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saintjoe Reply:
October 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
whatup kid! I know it’s been a minute but it’s all good! We still here!
Thanks for the update. I absolutely HATE the fact that it comes with a dongle, stupid lol.
And while I agree with the vst thing, I also think it’s part of what adds to Props success and “cult following”
Many programs out there try to play with everyone, and you can certainly use rewire if you want, but if they just focus on making what they have great, I think that’s why they are so popular.
I personally don’t use reason, but I know many that do. They love having everything in there they need. And just like with the refills available, I can definitely see vst/fx companies making “Record Device” presets and plugins.
I really do think it will catch on and I really believe people will follow in line with what line 6 did, and start making devicies and plugins for Record.
That will be even better than vst, it will be specific to Record. Maybe I’m dreaming, but that’s what I think…and I’m still considering Record as my “studio” platform when it’s time to lay vocals/songs.
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yeah im really interested in using propellerheads new software record!!! the beta
team!!
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saintjoe Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Let me know how you like it, I only messed with it for a lil bit but I liked what I saw.
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THNXS FOR THE REPLY HOW CAN I GET THE LINK?
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saintjoe Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
The beta is over, it was only until mid September, the real product is out now and you can download a demo from their site I believe.
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Saintjoe,
Did you ever purchase Record? It’s def hot! I run Pro Tools Le, Record & Reason.
These are my weapons to make my music. I only hold on to PT just in case a client
needs a track/song in that format. Otherwise it’s all Record and Reason.
Because I run Record on a Windows based computer and ProTools on a Mac G5
thru 2 different interfaces (002 & E-mu 1616m), I have the ability to use all my stand alone software synths and synths in Protools (Xpand and Hybrid in my Mac)and record them straight up into Record just like they were hardware! It’s crazy!
And record sounds amazing! So If you haven’t taken the plunge, stop posing!
Beatmaker E.I.
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saintjoe Reply:
November 12th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Nah, I never went with it…still thinking about it, but I’m not quite sure I wanna roll that way just yet. I still like to have access to various plugins and such, so I don’t know if I want to get in bed with Record just yet.
not sure what you mean about “So If you haven’t taken the plunge, stop posing!” lol
you’ll have to explain that one to me homie!
I’ve heard good things about it, but I just haven’t made up my mind if it’s something I want to roll with. I can use Reaper to record my vocals and it sounds dope, plus I can have access to any plugins I wish…
And that license is only 60 bucks lol.
My engineer homies tell me Record sounds good, and when I was trying the beta it def sounded good, but it still has that “reason” feel too it, a lot of busyness going on lol.
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Beatmaker E.I. Reply:
November 12th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I here ya! When I said stop posing I meant stop waiting. No offense meant.
I feel you on not being sure if you want to get involved just yet, after all it’s just
version 1.0. Maybe the next versions will have something that’ll catch your fancy.
Right now it’s pretty cool for me cause when I play my software synths I get no latency
going into Record which is great cause I couldn’t do that going into Pro Tools. I would have to open them in a Pro Tools session which kinda drained my CPU cycles. Now I can utilize the synths I wasn’t using before.
It’s all good.
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saintjoe Reply:
November 12th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
No offense taken, I really wondered what you meant, sometimes people have different slang and terms so I always have to be sure lol.
So you’re using your mac as a module and just recording the audio into Record? That’s pretty dope.
Nah, I know it’s stable, I’m just like if I go with it, that will be it, then I’ll forever have to say bye bye to external plugins lol. I don’t use many for fx, so if the sound is right in Record it won’t really matter.
It reminds me of my standalone 8 track recorders man, it’s pretty cool. It can get a lil involved though when you start going through all the views and fx and such.
We’ll see, I still haven’t decided on a DAW for vocals just yet.
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Peace:
I have been very interested in this “RECORD” project from the first day I heard about it. In my opinion, the only problem record has is the fact that Pro Tools equals hot mixes and hit records. It’s been the industry standard since atleast the mid 90′s. All it would take is for a big pop/rock band and a big r&b/hip hop artist to have a hit record and say the recorded and mixed with ONLY Reason & Record, and history would be in the making. I would also assume that Reason 5 and Record 2 will give us the additional plug in’s that some feel are lacking right now. What some people tend to forget is that Reason 4 IS a full recording environment, and now with Record, what else do you need?
I have worked on SSL, NEVE and Soundtrac boards and you know what..NOONE who is not a trained seasoned producer, artist etc, could never guess or care what software or $100,000 board was used to mix. Right now, it’s all about peer pressure, but let me re-phrase that…..commercial DAW pressure.
Right now, RECORD is putting fear in the hearts of many DAW companies, because of it’s ease of use and along with Reason, who needs additional vst plug in’s.
I am from the old school and when it’s all over said and done, It’s not what you use, It’s how you freak what you got. Who needs a $80 hr engineer and a $150 hr recording studio When you can get the Reason bundle, pick up a few 3rd party libraries, stop by Novaloops for those extra flava loops, and goto youtube for some tutorials. Case dismissed…the world is YOURS.
Groove Out
One
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saintjoe Reply:
December 4th, 2009 at 7:27 am
I hear ya yo, for me it’s all about getting your ideas out in the easiest most creative way, I don’t care about protools, logic or whatever “everyone uses” because truth is everybody uses something different.
Plus it’s easy to export wav stems so you can move files to any daw you wish lol.
thanks for the comment
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Peace;
I would also like to add the fact of the “ReMote” capabilities. add an MPD32, Novation SL remote and you have a fully automated studio for under $1000. I really like Openlabs Niko & Miko, but not everyone can afford $5000 for a setup.
Thanks Saintjoe for bringing this topic up
peace
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saintjoe Reply:
December 4th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Exactly man, things just get more powerful and you can get more for less each and every year, that’s the great thing about technology.
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what up joe i have a few ? about beatthangz vst first can i use the quantize with my exsternal gear synths or sound modual dose all the sounds and support lesson are they all free like there site clams and where is the best place to buy to get that support. thanks joe your a big help synth
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saintjoe Reply:
December 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
it’s not a vst yet.
I haven’t tried using it to control external equipment but I’m sure it works like any other midi sequencer, since the data is in the btv, it will use it’s own internal quantize.
I’m not sure what you mean by support lessons? They have a forum, and they put out various videos as well… you don’t have to buy any support.
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if u jump on there sitethey show they have ten vieo support inst for the vst i would like to use it with my lxd
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saintjoe Reply:
December 21st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
not sure what you’re talkin about, prolly need to get with them and see, send an email to their support team.
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also can u make a pad ajustment to play diffren note range
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saintjoe Reply:
December 21st, 2009 at 2:59 pm
you can bank up and down all the octaves….
this post isn’t really the spot to talk about beatthang either…kinda off topic lol.
make sure you go over to their forum, they have support staff over there that can help ya.
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i wont to use beatthang in my lxd miko to control my mc909 but it uses notes d1 throught d16 so i would like to set my range and on the site i i went to the see the vst and it shows all of free bonuses is everything inclueded
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saintjoe Reply:
December 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm
http://beatkangz.com check out their forum.
I dont have a miko or an mpc 909 but I know the beattthang covers all 88 keys of a piano so you can use the octave buttons to go up and down in the notes.
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thanks man u have the the gear so i wonted to ask i will jump on there site
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i wont the thang but i wont to know how it works with my gear i post ? for them wateing to here back i wish they had a phone number i fill a litte un eazy about something if i can get simple answers with out wate or searching for it so thanks agian man merry x mas and happy new year ..synth
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saintjoe Reply:
December 21st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
cool, get with them and get your questions answered before you order, i’m not sure what it is you’re askin so I can’t help much lol…sorry.
you have a merry Christmas as well!
see ya!
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dude i will give u a number to call if u wont
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saintjoe Reply:
December 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
i’m at work.
best bet is to get with them as I don’t work for them and don’t want to give any wrong info.
I don’t use it to control anything external but it has that option.
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cool saint but if u ever fill you wont to cotact me fill free to let me know and i hope i wasnt a bother late synth
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saintjoe Reply:
December 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
no prob man, u wasn’t a bother I just didn’t want to give you any wrong info. I’m sure it can do what you want, seems simple enough, but since I don’t use it that way it’s best to get with them.
holla!
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I LOVE REASON and can’t wait to get my hands on REcord…They jacked me though, not compatible with PPC G5 MAC…BOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Soon as I upgrade the mac, i’ll get record. I see it like this, even though it doesnt support VST, its mad easy to make tracks wih on reason, and for the stuff I got reason beats to, I’ll use record to lay vocals. For my VST joints in CUBASE then I’ll use Cubase to record. Its all about seasons mane, chainging the channel, seasons, etc. One method may release an inspiration and another…well another inspiration feel me? Peace!!!!
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saintjoe Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Yeah I def feel ya man! Record definitely look nice as a recording platform, I’m not interested in Reason at all, but I’m still looking at Record for simple vocal recording.
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what up joe i was wondering if u have any coupons for the beatthang
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saintjoe Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
nope, there are no coupons.
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joe do u use beat thang vst with reaper
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saintjoe Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
nah, it’s not a vst yet.
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so how would i use it with my lxd
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saintjoe Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
you could just install it like any other software, it just doesn’t load up in reaper, you’d use it by itself. They are supposed to be making it a vst, then you could load it up in reaper
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would i have to use a computer
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saintjoe Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
your lxd is a computer
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djreggieregg Reply:
June 4th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
@saintjoe, how can i get record??? i used rewasons for years and did alotta remixes for local and well known artist. i also use it live doin gigs. but i heard record is the BOMB. can u help out man?????
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saintjoe Reply:
June 4th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
@djreggieregg, it’s for sale in pretty much any music store or online at any music site, you can get it direct from propellerheads as well.
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Peace:
I know that there are alot of peeps who do not smile heavily on Reason and I doubt that Record will replace Pro Tools, but I can honestly admit that Reason & Record together is a massive product.
And this is why:
1) Decide what you are, a producer or an engineer.
2) Determine what kind of equipment budget you have.
Now, if you are focusing on being a producer and have a limited budget, then the Reason bundle would work for you.
and..If you’ve decided that you want to get into engineering, we’ll the Reason bundle will work as well, because it has ALL the basic elements of recording and mixing without overwhelming you.
Now here’s the clincher…..If you want to be a producer/BEATMAKER focusing on sampling, chopping loops and intricate drum & synth programming..then I’d say…stay glued to this website, do your research and ask questions, weigh your options and then proceed. You get out, what you put in.
Peace
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saintjoe Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 am
Great input yo! I think it’s all about workflow. I know Record is powerful by itself, as is Reason. I don’t like the sequencing in Reason, but I’m not against using it as a sound module.
You have some very valid points too!
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Propellerhead has many Reasons (no pu intended) for not allowing the use of VST plugins, for one, it keeps their software very stable, the most stable software out there. I have used most of the major software, Pro Tools, Logic, Abletn, Fl Studio, Sonar, Reaper, Cusbae and Acid. Reasons/Record has never crashed on me unless I was rewired with another Daw and certain plugins will or may cause the softwares to crash. Propellerhead is the creator of rewire, which allows you to connect Record/Reasons to your daw, so you can use virtual instruments. Proepellerheads Record Has one of the best looking software mixers’ to date, emulated from the SSL AW9000. Record also allows you to have multiple instruments and effect racks. Its very esy on you cpu and there are plenty of instrument sounds and refills to satisfy any genre of music.
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saintjoe Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 8:45 am
@Teacee, yeah, it makes sense why the don’t allow vst plugins, it’s all good.
I’m still thinking of using reason as a module at some point, we’ll see, I want to see if they introduce any new synths in version 5.
Record is nice, straight-foward and good sounding. But for people who already have a large collection of plugins for their mixing/recording, it’s a lil hard. I guess you can use Record to get that ssl mix sound, then export and add final touches in your main daw.
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Teacee Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 9:16 am
@saintjoe,
I too, have a huge library of plugins, maschine, kore 2, ik multimedia workstation, and many more, but there is nothing like having access to a multitude of instruments and effects in a rack with endless possibility’s. And now with Reason 5 and Record 1.5 being released in about 3 weeks, with its new sampler, new rex player that allows 8 rex files to be loaded in one unit, blocks, similar to Abletons Clips, it only gets better.
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saintjoe Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 10:04 am
@Teacee, I’ve been watchin the development of reason 5, I think the sampling is a great addition, blocks is a great addition as well but more like patterns than ableton clips, though it’s a great move. I would have been more interested in using Reason when I was searching if they had the blocks feature for the sequencer a year ago lol.
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Teacee Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 10:13 am
@saintjoe,
Yeah I hear ya man, I don’t use reason/record as much as I should I have been spending a lot of time learning all the features in Ableton Live Suite, but I feel Logic still has full package and is still my favorite. But I am a gear junkie such as yourself, i notice you use a lot of software I use, and I too beta test a lot of software as well. Technology has changed the game, I remember buying my first software daw called power tracks, back in the mid 80′s, it was on 2 floppy disk, lol thank God for technology.
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saintjoe Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 11:40 am
@Teacee, technology is a wonderful thing for sure!
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Hey,
man jst saw your video on youtube about Record. I recently started to use Reason and im very exited that they managed to create a DAW cuz they was missin one. So jst wanna to let you know that. PEACE
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saintjoe Reply:
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
@JKey, thanks for stoppin by yo!
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yo joe hey do u know whats up with beathang support i upgreated my beathang and it delete my thang i tryed to reload it with the usb they send me but nothing loads man am i out $149 thanks man if u can help
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saintjoe Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 9:35 am
@synth, yo, this is not a support page for any and everything, if you have a specific question for me just use the contact form, don’t keep posting on this article with unrelated questions please.
Hit up beatkangz support and they should take care of you, I can’t tell you wasup as I don’t work over there.
support@beatkangz.com should get you started.
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thanks man for sending me that contact info soming up with there site but man can u post a vid how u use it with reaper so when i get going i dont have any problems thanks for everthing
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saintjoe Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:43 am
@synth, same as using any other plugin in reaper, load it up and play it.
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thanks i been hear everyone is crash when they use it thats why i asked
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saintjoe Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
@synth, this article has nothing to do with btv, please stop posting questions about it on this article. If you want to ask me questions about it go to my beat thang site or use the contact form at the top of the page.
thanks.
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thanks joe this site has been great i have been with for some time now ‘you in-lighten me and meny more much love & respect synth
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