This is just a quick video I put together showing how to use sounds from beat thang virtual in Maschine.
Of course it will work for other programs too, but Maschine has some features that makes it pretty easy and quick to do.
A lot of folks that have BTV are always looking for ways to get the sounds out of it to use in their favorite daw, sequencer, mpc, whatever.
There’s a few ways to do it, I found this way to be very quick and easy.
Some other ways to do it are recording audio directly into a wave editor or daw from btv, and chopping the samples, manually. You can make a simple beat that has what you need in it, export as a wave, and chop it manually. You can use something like Sample Robot or another automatic sampling system to do it, and there’s even a way you can do it with a script using autohotkey.
For me, using Extreme Sample Converter was the quickest and most efficient way, since BTV is a vst plugin now, I can just use the VST converter tool in Extreme Sample Converter.
Here’s the video:
So let me know what ya think, as you can see this is a dope tool to have, and automated vst sampling is like waking up to fresh pancakes…just a good thing!
Very nice. I finished all the drums already. I’ll probably start on the instruments tomorrow. Once I’m done…there is no reason for me to use the software anymore so I probably won’t. lol
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saintjoe Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
@madbull1971, I feel you fam, it’s amazing how they instrument with just one note sounds way better in maschine lol…
I didn’t do all the drums, I had some specific one’s though…
I’ll probably get a few more instruments
I haven’t tried converting to Kontakt yet, may try that too.
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Yo man I just finally finished adding every drum kit from Beat Thang to Maschine. I setup each kit to correspond to the same kits listed in Beat Thang. I’ve been testing them out and they are tight. I don’t think I will be doing the same thing for all the instruments. I’ll have to scan through those and pick and choose what I want. I think I’m all set fo’ sure.
I really appreciate your videos man. Keep it up.
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saintjoe Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:37 am
@Madbull Studios, yeah man…I went through and grabbed all the drums and made new kits just for each sound, because all of the drums aren’t in kits
I’ll go through and grab specific kits as well.
On the instruments, remember, even if it don’t sound good in BTV, it will most likely sound much better in Maschine just because of the way it handles samples and such. All you need is one note, especially for the sounds in BTV…
I do this with tons of other wavs and such, more videos coming soon
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I thought you would be showing some dragging and dropping between the 2 apps, but this Extreme Sample Converter is pretty dope. I never heard of it, and when I checked the price seemed reasonable.
I hope they improve the Beat Thang Virtual soon, it’s not good when everybody loves your sound content but doesn’t want to use the actual software.
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saintjoe Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
@Metatron72, lol, it is what it is man lol. I think people are comfortable with what they have and btv doesn’t do enough to warrant a switch. I still mess with it standalone from time to time, but it needs quite a bit of updates to make it a contender in my opinion, you can’t even drag the start/end points of your samples, you have to “turn” a virtual knob…not a good look lol.
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Oooo..sweetness! BeatKangz needs to get on the grind, now c’mon now fellas! This is very-very interesting, I haven’t heard of ESC before this. Correct me if I’m wrong but say one would like sound/samples from say Kontakt/Mach 5 for use in Maschine, then ESC will facilitate that? If so…man o’ man people are gonna have tetrabytes of sounds on stock especially after applying fx’s just they way a person envisions how they would like things to sound. BTW what other programs are there comparable to ESC on the market?
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saintjoe Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
@jamari, yes, or you can convert into kontakt format, sampletank, etc. You can sample any vst you want lol. Directwave in flstudio can sample vsts as well. SampleRobot is another one
I like ESC, it’s nice and has a bunch of options, easy to use, and can put your samples into various formats!
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Joe, I don’t use this feature much but since I upgraded to Maschine 1.5 I can no longer use note repeat with my midi keyboard (Actually this the first time I needed to use that feature since I upgraded). I’m wondering if it’s just something on my side or have you experienced this issue as well?
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saintjoe Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
@Madbull1971, I think some other folks said something about that previously, I’ve actually never tried it myself but I don’t think you are alone in that one. I thought it was fixed though, maybe I’m wrong lol.
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I searched all over Extreme Sample Converter website, not for mac, huh? Im trying to convert Beat Thang sounds for Reason/Record use(NN-XT .sxt, NN-19.smp, etc), any suggestions for software to use?
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saintjoe Reply:
September 2nd, 2010 at 10:55 am
@Theus Sears, maybe something like sample robot, samplit, cdxtract, etc. I’m not sure about programs on the mac though, I don’t use a mac, sorry.
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Joe,
I’m looking for the file to load in the converter for beat Thang can you point me in the right direction please.
Thanks
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saintjoe Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
@dawilliams660, it’s not a file, you load the vst plugin, if you don’t have the vst installer you can download it from their website.
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dawilliams660 Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
@saintjoe, So on BTV web site? OK I will try that….thanks Joe
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saintjoe Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
@dawilliams660, yessir
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@saintjoe, mine is the stand alone
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saintjoe Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
@dawilliams660, they put out a vst beta for all users of the standalone, I don’t know if it’s still up or not, it may be expired, if so, you’ll have to wait for the official vst update.
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saintjoe- you know a good program to convert the samples for Mac? Thanks man.
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saintjoe Reply:
November 24th, 2010 at 9:43 am
@Larue, there’s some like cdxtract or others but I’m not on a mac so not quite sure completely
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Thanks man..one more question, can I just take the sample folder from the BTV app, then load the folder with all the .btsp extentions on a pc then use the app you demonstrate?
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saintjoe Reply:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
@Larue, nah, that won’t work, it’s not a recognized file format.
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Dang.. ok thanks..
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saintjoe Reply:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
@Larue, no problem.
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Hey JO much love from the UK.
Is the quality from the compressed BK format noticable? I would like to utilise the sounds in Mashine also! if not via Live drum racks. Also know anywhere i can get some nice percussion loops? Lol
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
@KT1, the quality of the drums and riffs are fine. Percussion loops, look over at Big Fish they have something called essential percussion or essential studio percussion, I can’t remember exactly, but it has all the perc you need lol.
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Oh i think i wasn’t very clear. I meant that i like the quality of the Beat thangs sounds but are they improved when imported as a WAV post conversion? Will check out those packs for tha Perc! Also you may want to hear the sample pack i have been working on for about three years lol! I play the drums and do all the mic set up etc..Buddy is the the sound engineer – we were going to distribute it but were told it went against his contract with east west sigh! still they are ours to share!
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:29 am
@KT1, oh cool, yeah the quality didn’t change much from internal to wav, with the coming update you’ll be able to use it as a plugin inside Maschine so may not be worth the trouble, unless you just want the raw files in the Maschine library.
That sounds cool on the sample pack man!! Would love to hear it
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KT1 Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:40 am
@saintjoe, No doubt! i’ll send something over when i get home but it would only be for your personal library i’m afraid as i am not allowed to distribute so no reviews lol! but feedback would be cool. I’ll put in some fresh breaks i played both dry and wet and see if i can provide the BPM to help ya out! Or would you prefer the one shot stuff we are working with. We mostly recorded breaks and then resampled the strikes through the avalon comp and SSL matrix.
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KT1 Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:41 am
@KT1, Also what e-mail you may want to hit me up with that lol
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:48 am
@KT1, saintjoe @ soundsandgear dot com is fine
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:48 am
@KT1, cool man
I’m a one shot guy but you can include some breaks if you wish lol. Sounds like fun, and I’m in the process of restructuring a lot of my sounds so good timing, see if they make it into the rotation.
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KT1 Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:56 am
@saintjoe, They definately will! I have had some very good feedback from the select few that have heard them! funny thing is a lot of people wanted the breaks so they could chop and get that classic chop/sample type sound. A lot would take it and convert from the 24 bit sample down to an 8 or 16 bit using a bit converter to get that grit. The breaks were all recorded on Tape using the best mikes and ran through the SSL Matrix. One shots – i have made some layers from the random bits of fun we have used from 808′s to acoustic pearl snap snares! I have raw files and processed files (where the magic really lies!). Send me an e-mail and i’ll mail you over a sample set for your perusal!
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:03 am
@KT1, brother send both the one shots and the breaks lol…lemme see what ya got!
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KT1 Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
@saintjoe, I’m leaving the studio in about 20 mins – When i get in i’ll put them together and zip them for ya. I’m gonna send the wavs only.
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
@KT1, sounds good bro!
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KT1 Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
@saintjoe, Check your mail! I have to get back to the studio for a late session after i finish my pasta lol. I have sent you a couple of our kicks from the finished sample set for your sub rating! it’s a preview of the pack we will be releasing early feb 2011. We plan on being the best urban drum sample library the world is ever seen!
haha dream big right? A lot of the UK urban seen have used our product and it was there request for us to sell a premium pack that led to the work we have done.
Much love and please dont share!
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
@KT1, got it…big words man! Let’s see!
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KT1 Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
@saintjoe, I hope we please
Like i said – my colleague and i are happy to give you a preview pack to review but the kicks i have sent are just to give you a feel for the processing quality and sample quality.
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
@KT1, cool man, had a quick change to check it out, interesting tones you got there, has a nice organic sound to it…not synthy
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KT1 Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
@saintjoe, so? im waiting tentatively – should i get the full review pack together for you or you think it’s not worthy lol?
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saintjoe Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
@KT1, ahahaha, you can send it over man, I’d like to check it out, it’s hard to judge on 7 kick drums lol, I will def provide feedback either way
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KT1 Reply:
December 16th, 2010 at 3:34 am
@saintjoe, Yup the kicks i sent over where acoustic strikes then layered with acoustic transients and tails as opposed to the common digital transient/tail stacks – Not many people do that and we thought it would give them that thump that people look for. The joy in an acoustic transient is you can EQ those 60 hrt regions without bringing a SUB quality to the sample. Leaves room for Bass in the mix. I put a small pack together for you over the weekend with some more selection. Could you please put some of the kicks into a mix you’re working on and tell me how it sounds? It is important that these cut threw like a razor. I know you’re a drum guru so would be intrested to hear if we got the EQ right – Perhaps get a small midi pattern going and use a kick you love and then replace with one of mine! let me know how it makes you feel! Till then much love!
no doubt fam, looking forward to checking it out, had a minor setback tonight in my gear, water heater leaked all over my stuff! But my computer isn’t damaged so…yeah…lol
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guys, anyone here sampled all the banks from beat than virtual vsti???
i failed to, because all times i tried to sample the drums from beat thang all my samples were pitched DOWN ((((
i tried extreme sample converter and other similiar apps, any different vsti samples OK, but not the beat thang! HELP!
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saintjoe Reply:
December 16th, 2010 at 8:46 am
@atarix, weird, I didn’t run into anything like that. I did not sample the whole thing, since it is a vst now, I didn’t have a need anymore.
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Yo SaintJoe that a windows only program and I use a Mac you any other software that is as simple to use as the one used in this video. And not the 500 buck software sample robot that’s not even a truly Mac compatible.
Thanks in advance for info
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saintjoe Reply:
May 2nd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
@Pat of Jammdat Music, nah, not sure of anything else for the mac, samplit maybe? I think that may be a mac program.
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Thanks Man Samplit is a mac program, I downloaded the demo but it’s far to complicated for me. I think I’m going to get me a cheap 300 to 400 dollar PC for the programs that I find musically useful but are windows only programs. Again thanks for the help SaintJoe Sr. keep it up.
God Bless You
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saintjoe Reply:
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:19 am
@Pat of Jammdat Music, cool man, I hear ya, plenty of laptops around that price for simple things like this.
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What site can i find ESC at?
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saintjoe Reply:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:28 pm
@dion, at the extreme sample converter website
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i have the btv know im a have to get the maschine so can do the that… Ill have the best of both WORLDS
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saintjoe Reply:
October 5th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
@juancee, cool, you can do it with any program you wish that can accept the format you convert to. Or you can just convert them to wavs to use in any pgroam you want.
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DOES THE EXTREME SAMPLE CONVERTER COME WITH THE MACSHINE
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saintjoe Reply:
October 5th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
@juancee, no, this isn’t part of Machine it’s a separate program you don’t need Maschine to use it.
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