Maschine triggering VSTs in Ableton Live

Maschine triggering VSTs in Ableton Live

Yall know I’ve been working out different ways to use Maschine to the fullest and still have proper integration with my plugin collection.

I’ve finally found it!

Using Maschine standalone, and using Ableton Live as a rack…but what I also found out, is that you can sync live to Maschine’s clock!

Using midi drag and drop when I’m done sequencing, I can get everything I do in Maschine into Live’s session view very quickly.

Then I just arrange my patterns that way, it’s a very quick, efficient, and unlimited workflow….I really feel like I have no limits right now.

I can’t wait until I can drag and drop audio from Live back into Maschine ;) Then I can use some of that warping and other goodness from live.

Anyway, this is my current workflow, and out of all the different ways I’ve messed with Maschine and plugins, this feels the most productive and the most natural.

peep the vid and let me know what you think.

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66 Responses to “Maschine triggering VSTs in Ableton Live”

  1. ianthom says:

    man thats nice iwonder if that the same for logic pro 9 would you know i believe it is hit me bac

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @ianthom, I imagine it would be the same or similar, I am not familiar with Logic, but I’m sure it should work, it’s basic midi routing, you just need to see how to set it up in Logic.

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    ianthom Reply:

    @saintjoe, if there is someone who has a mac uses logic and sync maschaine up the way could they help mE tried mostly everything

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  2. Dolomyte3d69 says:

    Man, you sure just helped to relieve a big headache! I picked up my Maschine close to a month ago. Although I like the software, I spent so much time learning Ableton that I find myself using it mainly. I can control my tracks with the Machine in Live, I was having problems pulling it all together. Thanks for this video! Can’t wait to get home tonight to try it out.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Dolomyte3d69, cool man! Glad to help yo, I LOVE this workflow man.

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  3. Maschine triggering VSTs in Ableton Live Is Dope. I always wondered what live could do as a rack , I use 8.1.1 of live and the sound engine to me is a very high quality. I am falling in love with maschine too lol. Great vid ,very informative and Im feeling the work flow. Perhaps in the future you will be able to drag and drop audio from Live back into Maschine. :) I use the warping In live on samples and it is pretty incredable to say the least i feel as if I have no limit when im on live. So the two together has got to be a beast!!!!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Dro Fontaine Of DigitalMuzick.yolasite.com, yeah bro! that’s like the one thing I still want, to be able to use warping and such in Live and drag back into Maschine, then I’ll be set! Right now I’m pretty much set and I feel there is nothing I can’t do, but that would just be an addition to this workflow.

    I finally feel like I’ve found the system/flow I want that leaves me with no limits yet it’s still smooth and not clunky.

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  4. GreatScott says:

    That Maschine looks dope Joe!!!Wish i could afford it lol!!!!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @GreatScott, it is dope man I love it :)

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  5. Noah says:

    Just wanted to say great video. I’ve been messin’ with Maschine for about 6 months or so and the 1.5 update has made it integral for my setup. Love what you do here Saint Joe, keep it up!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Noah, cool glad to help!

    I love it too :)

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  6. Ophidite says:

    Why not save our warping track from live in a directory accessible by maschine file explorer

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Ophidite, yeah that’s what I’d do but it would be slicker to just be able to drag it directly over :)

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  7. mehdo says:

    yo whats up Saint its been a while gotta pass these classes and I dig the video

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @mehdo, no doubt fam, handle ya bizness!

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  8. BossMan818 says:

    THANKS Saintjoe you keep it real nice video!! I just bought the NI Maschine this month May 5th still learning this piece. I Have been on Ableton Live 8 since January 2010. I like the drumracks and simpler together but now I have more power unlimited all Software now for me
    this is the New Age Thanks again God Bless you peace.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @BossMan818, no doubt fam, this is a VERY powerful combination man, I love it, truly!

    thanks for checkin it out yo

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  9. Funk Bandit says:

    yo bro basically it like a rewire scenario , just wanted to know with this set up , when doing the mix down would it have to be done twice ie one in live and maschine as well ? . hit me back bro

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Funk Bandit, it’s different than rewire because no audio is being transmitted between the two. I just drag the audio out of maschine into Live, I do the mixdown/song creation in live. I just do all the sequencing and production in Maschine.

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    Funk Bandit Reply:

    @saintjoe, seeeen I get you now bro . i assume you are using two different soundcards / two pcs to fire up maschine and live simultaneously . peace

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Funk Bandit, two soundcards or you can use a soundcard that is multiclient, or the multi client asio server, it’s a free download.

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    Funk Bandit Reply:

    @saintjoe, the multi clients asio server is a good option for me as i have been using two sound card as it a pain in the *** . since i saw ur reply i have been scouring the web to find the link for the download link but no joy . would you be able to point me in the right direction/ send me the link bro . peace

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Funk Bandit, No doubt fam! Here ya go

    http://www.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=101066

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    Funk Bandit Reply:

    @saintjoe, safe for that brother just d/l and works great . peace

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Funk Bandit, dopeness!

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  10. JaseFOS says:

    Hey Saint Joe … Which software are you using for your screen capturing?

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @JaseFOS, camtasia studio.

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  11. Bigjohn610pa says:

    Thank you for posting fam gonna have to try this been waiting to use ableton but was looking confusing for a while tried maschine as vst but don’t like it being a slave to ableton or fruity loops for that matter. Can you do a vid on the same topic but with fl. Maschine is the truth can’t wait for time stretching even though I chop samples like you. Peace and love and continue being a beast when it comes to music

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Bigjohn610pa, I feel ya man, it just depends on what I’m doing, I like it this way, but if you don’t really mind the no transport thing then using as a plugin is cool too. I’ll have to download an fl demo to try it out.

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  12. Millsyy2k says:

    Hi SaintJoe,

    Firstly, I just want to say a massive thank you for this solution, it’s a superb way to integrate maschine and ableton.

    One quick question, i’ve noticed that if I try to record the midi patterns in real time to live they quickly fall out of sync. Drag & drop works like a charm, but real time midi recording is a mess (even recording just one channel).

    Have you got any thoughts on why this might be?

    Thanks

    Millsy

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  13. saintjoe says:

    @Millsyy2k, it could be the clock differences, I’m not sure. I would just drag and drop, it’s just as fast and works everytime :)

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    Millsyy2k Reply:

    @saintjoe, yeah I think thats the way to go and then Jam the individual patterns on the Apc40. Thanks once again for the vids and effort you put in.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Millsyy2k, yeah man, that’s a dope way of working for sure!

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  14. Fredrik says:

    Hi, I love your videos, but I dont understand how you do this. Got my Maschine today and instantly felt the need to get my patterns and scenes from Machine over to ableton for the construction of the songs after making different patterns with the hardware. The thing is that I work on a mac and LoopBe is unknown for me. Would it be possible for you to explain to me in detail how I get this done on a mac without LoopBe? Its probably a stupid question but I`ll take the harrasment if there is any chance that you can help me on this. Drag and drop to lives arrangement view is a must for me!!

    Best regards Fredrik

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, you have it a little easier on the mac :) You should see a “virtual midi out” in your Maschine output settings you can use that. Us pc users don’t have that luxury lol.

    then it would work the same way, just route the midi out of maschine to whatever channel you want in Live. Drag and drop works the same way.

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  15. Fredrik says:

    @SaintJoe, I am afraid that I need you to be a bit more detailed. I have an option called Maschine Virtual Output on the drop down menu, and I think I understand the part about channels, but I need a step by step instruction from a blank Live Set to the point where I can start dragging and dropping. Is it any way you can accomodate me here? Thanx for all the help!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, i’m not sure exactly what you are trying to do, everything you need to know how to do this is in the video. Set your midi output in Maschine (virtual maschine out) set that as an input in Live, then setup your vsts to respond to that midi input.

    On each channel you want to use, set it to respond to a different midi channel in Live, in Maschine you change the sound src to midi out, and choose which midi channel you want it to be on.

    Then after you are done, you need to choose “midi” for the pattern drag option, drag your midi into Live and it will play your synths, then you can build your track. If you want to drag audio from Maschine you can do that as well.

    There isn’t really any more step by step I can get than what’s in this video, I don’t use a mac, but the concepts are the same, it’s all about routing the midi properly.

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    Reese6771 Reply:

    @saintjoe, I agree a step by step tutorial on how to set this up would be great. I watched the video and set it up with the info provided, and had no success. When I muted the sounds in Maschine I got no sound in Ableton. Some how I’m not pointing the midi from Ableton back to Maschine..Your help on this would be greatly appreciated…

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Reese6771, this is step by step how I did it, if you mute sounds in maschine then you need to have drug the midi into ableton already, if you don’t have the midi data in ableton, muting maschine stops midi from triggering anything.

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  16. Fredrik says:

    I think I got it now, but where do I change sound src in Maschine? And can I record clips live in Live from my jabbing at the Maschine pads?:) Appreciate it Joe!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, you need to be on the sound tab, then hit the src tab, or you can just do it from software.

    if you have midi setup properly yes you can record midi into live directly if you wish

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  17. Fredrik says:

    Hi, I have sent you some E-mails with screens of my problems and routing pref. When I choose SRC = Midi Out i loose the name of all my sounds:)

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, that’s because you are changing it from internal sampler to trigger external midi, it won’t keep the name of the sounds because you aren’t using them anymore.

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  18. Fredrik says:

    Thx for the patience Joe. Did you get my E-mails?

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, I do not see any emails no.

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  19. Fredrik says:

    I sent 4-5 emails to; saintjoe@anointedtracks.com :)

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, oh I don’t use that email address, where you get it from?

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  20. Fredrik says:

    Is it possible to: Use Maschine to record midi into Live’s sequencer using the step function on the hardware?

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, never tried it, try it and see

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  21. Fredrik says:

    Can I get your E-mail adress so that I can send you some screencaps?

    My email is pintoholding@gmail.com

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, just use the contact form at the top :)

    where did you get the anointedtracks email? I want to make sure it’s not being sent out by the site, as I don’t check that one very often, it’s an old one lol.

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  22. Fredrik says:

    But if I use the contact form I am not able to send you screen shots?!:)

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, use the same address that you get replies from for these comments, saintjoe at soundsandgear :)

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  23. Fredrik says:

    Replies from these comments come from the other mail I mentioned, but I `ll use the one you gave me:)

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Fredrik, that’s weird! I don’t have that email listed anywhere in the settings of the site lol, time to investigate! lol

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  24. tim says:

    Hi Saintjoe,
    for me it does not really sync well with this configuration.
    If i playback a pattern in maschine that triggers a VSTI in Ableton, it is off the beat (around 1/32). No latency when i play directly any VSTi with the maschine pads….
    You do not have this problem?

    tim

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @tim, no I don’t have this problem at all.

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  25. tim says:

    hmm, just started my system, and no it is in sync.. But cannot explain whay, because i haven’t changed any settings.
    And i have tried to get my stuff synced for serveral days..
    maybe just the reboot of my laptop …

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @tim, check all your midi input/output settings, there should be no delay at all, not sure what’s going on in your setup.

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  26. tim says:

    now it works.. Thank you! I have made firmware update of my RME Multiface card… maybe this was the problem…

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @tim, cool!

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  27. tim says:

    Finally i found my favourite workaround… really happy now!
    btw. if you are interested in offering your music for commercial licensing, have a look at my website… we have mire thean 250 composers worldwide… allways looking for fresh music.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @tim, glad it’s working! I’ll check the site, thanks.

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  28. Moken says:

    @saintjoe Thx for the video very helpful man…I followed your video

    step by step but I hit a wall when trying to find the activate the

    send MIDI clock in Maschine file menu. Could you pls fill me in on

    how to get this send MIDI clock working?

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @Moken, nothing special you should just be able to turn it on, make sure “synch to external clock” isn’t turned on.

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